An Olive Branch and an Oak Banch, both Leafed !


OF THE
*Torch Aflame - Enlightening as...
**Olive Branch Leafed Link 1 (peace)
The United States Constitution Link 1 Link 2
The Articles Of Confederation Link 1 Link 2 Link 3
***An Oak Branch Leafed Link 1 Link 2 link 3
The "Declaration Of Independance" link 1 Link 2


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Introduction

...And a perspective from three points of which, I believe, we all share some peace; I am, of wisdom through some research, often portraiting symbolicly themes presented in the extension of an olive branch, a torch aflame, and an oak branch with leaves attached. In sumary to this introduction, see also some ""InVisual Protrait"" possibly of the day, thoughts with elements exstream; expressing this, painting view of somethings important, or just new to me, an expert of nothing. Just a view. ... InVisual Portrait post

Sunday, November 9, 2008

ABBA ABBA, SUNDAY SERMON, SABBATH IS A DELIGHT

ISAIAH 58

Isaiah 58
1Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.
2Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the ordinances of justice; they take delight in approaching to God.
3Wherefore have we fasted, say they, and thou seest not? wherefore have we afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge? Behold, in the day of your fast ye find pleasure, and exact all your labours.
4Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high.
5Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD?
6Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?
7Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?
8Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy reward.
9Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;
10And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noon day:
11And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.
12And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.
13If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
14Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.


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Monday, August 18, 2008

GREEK ORTHADOX :: MONASTISICM :: SAINT ANTHONY'S MONASTARY

My reason for searching continues from the post tpoic- "BABTIZE , BABTIZED, BABTISM... TRY BAPTIZE"

What I found was a page view that could be helpful, so I simply click "select all", copy, and now paste here to view in full the pages that follow:=+



Welcome to St. Anthony's Monastery Web Site (Kalos Horisate!)
In the summer of 1995 six monks arrived in the southern Arizona desert to establish St. Anthony’s Monastery, carrying with them the sacred, millenial heritage of the Holy Mountain, Athos. Since early Christian history, this steep and rocky peninsula in northern Greece proved to be a haven for ancient Egyptian, Cappadocian, and Constantinopolitan monastics. Thus, it enjoyed a direct link with the greatest monastic establishments of ancient Christianity, preserving intact the wisdom of the holy fathers and the sacred tradition of the ancient Church. Today, the Holy Mountain consists of 20 independent monasteries, and numerous sketes and hermitages, housing Orthodox Christian monks from all over the world.
Elder Ephraim, a disciple of Elder Joseph the Hesychast, having restored and repopulated four Mt. Athos monasteries and having established several men’s and women’s monastic communities throughout Greece and North America, transferred six Athonite monks to the Sonoran Desert to start a new monastery. Upon their arrival the fathers began with the necessary construction work, building first the main church, living quarters for the monks, the dining hall, and guest facilities. A vegetable garden, a small vineyard, citrus orchards, and an olive grove dot the landscape. An elaborate system of gardens, pathways, and gazebos with Spanish fountains truly render the monastery and its extensive grounds an oasis in the desert.
The monastery is dedicated to St. Anthony the Great, the father of monasticism, the renowned 3rd century anchorite. There are chapels dedicated to Saints Seraphim of Sarov, Demetrios of Thessalonica, John the Baptist, George the Great Martyr, Nicholas the Wonderworker, and Panteleimon the Healer. The main church is dedicated to Saints Anthony and Nectarios the Wonderworker.
The monastery follows the coenobitic rule of monastic life: a brotherhood of monks and novices holding all things in common follow a daily schedule of prayer and work under obedience to the abbot, their spiritual father. The monks’ daily program begins at midnight with personal prayer time and spiritual reading, followed by the cycle of morning prayers and the Divine Liturgy. After a light breakfast and a rest period, the monks begin their work day, attending to prayer and their tasks till evening. Tasks include, among others, construction, groundskeeping, vinedressing, gardening, woodworking, publishing, food preparation, and offering hospitality. The day ends with evening Vespers followed by dinner and Compline.
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Tuesday, July 29, 2008

BABTIZE , BABTIZED, BABTISM... TRY BAPTIZE

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Did Jesus Command Baptism in Order to be Saved? A commentary on John 3:5-7by Rich Deem
Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. (John 3:5)
Introduction
Many Christians have claimed that one cannot be saved without being baptized and cite the verse above as evidence. Although baptism is an ordinance of the Christian Church and a command given to those who convert non-believers, Jesus never commanded baptism in order to be saved. Let us look at this verse in context to try to figure out what "born of water" actually refers to.
John 3 in context
Let us start by checking out the entire verse in context:
Jesus answered and said to him, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." Nicodemus said to Him, "How can a man be born when he is old? He cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born, can he?" Jesus answered, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not be amazed that I said to you, "You must be born again.' (John 3:3-7)
There are two conditions to enter the kingdom of God. Which comes first? "Born of water," according to the verse. Does baptism precede being born of the Spirit in the believer? Jesus clarifies what He means in the next verse, "That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." Being born of water is referring to being born physically (the water referring to the amniotic fluid that breaks as one is born). This is why He said "You must be born again." The first birth is the birth from water, or the flesh. The second is to be born of the Spirit, which is of God. I think it is pretty clear that the verse does not refer to baptism, but to the first birth. At this point, the "entering" is for anyone who is born again (i.e., born of the Spirit).
Let's go over the specific text in question. Verse 3 says that one must be born again to see the kingdom of God. Verse 5 says that one must be born of water AND the Spirit to enter the kingdom of God. The text tells us that these requirements are one and the same.
In stating that one must be born again, Jesus referred to 2 births - the first the physical birth on Earth. Nicodemus recognized this as the first requirement, since he stated that a man cannot enter a second time into his mother's womb (John 3:4). In the very next statement he explains the two kinds of birth. "Born of water" refers to the physical birth, whereas "born of the Spirit" refers to being "born again" or the second birth. In the next verse, Jesus clarifies the statement explaining that "born of water" refers to being "born of flesh." Jesus was clear and direct. There is no mention of baptism anywhere. "Born of water" never refers to baptism in any other verse in the entire Bible. The Greek word used is "hudwr" (Strong's number G5204).1 The Greek word for baptism is "baptisma" (Strong's number G908).2 If Jesus had wanted to refer to baptism, He would have used this word. In fact, the word (or a variation of it) occurs 112 times in the New Testament.
Counter arguments
Why did Jesus use different verbs, "see" in verse 33 vs. "enter" in verse 5?4 It is a common practice in teaching to use different words to explain the same concept. By doing so, one keeps the attention of your student. And Jesus was an excellent teacher, who used this technique often. Take a look at another teaching about the kingdom of God:
But Jesus called for them, saying, "Permit the children to come to Me, and do not hinder them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these. Truly I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God like a child shall not enter it at all." (Luke 18:16-17)
In the first verse, Jesus says that the kingdom of God "belongs" to children. In the second, He says that one must receive the kingdom as a child in order to "enter." Is belonging and entering different? Yes, these are different verbs, but the point is the same. Likewise, one cannot enter the kingdom of God without seeing it.
Jesus often used multiple parables to illustrate the same spiritual truths. You can confirm this yourself by reading virtually any chapter in any of the gospels.
Did Jesus baptize?
A general observation of the ministry of Jesus Christ reveals that He never told anyone to be baptized in any of the gospel accounts. His discussion with numerous people about how to have a relationship with God have been recorded in the gospels,5 but in none of those accounts does Jesus tell anyone that they must be baptized. If baptism were crucial to one's salvation, I would think that He would have mentioned it at least once! Was Jesus negligent in not explaining this to all the people He talked to in the gospels? I don't think so! In addition, Jesus never baptized anyone to our knowledge, although He had His disciples perform the ceremony.6 In fact, He routinely sent the people off after being healed without baptism. Obviously, He gave the command to His disciples to baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.7 Baptism is an outward expression of what has already occurred within an individual. Jesus didn't need to see that outward expression of an individual's conversion, since, being God, He already knew what was in their heart.
Salvation by faith
In contrast, Jesus talked very often about faith - at least 27 examples given in the gospels: Matthew 8:10, Matthew 8:26, Matthew 9:2, Matthew 9:22, Matthew 9:29, Matthew 14:31, Matthew 15:28, Matthew 16:8, Matthew 17:20, Matthew 21:21, Mark 2:5, Mark 4:40, Mark 5:34, Mark 10:52, Mark 11:22, Luke 5:20, Luke 7:9, Luke 7:50, Luke 8:25, Luke 8:48, Luke 12:28, Luke 17:5, Luke 17:6, Luke 17:19, Luke 18:8, Luke 18:42, Luke 22:32.8 Could it be that faith is the key to having a relationship with God and not baptism?
The idea that baptism is required for justification perpetuates the Jewish notion of salvation through works of the law, which were repudiated by the apostles (Acts 10:43-11:18,9 15:1-11,10 Romans 3:30,11 Galatians 2,12 and Philippians 313) and the early church fathers. Yes, I believe one should be baptized in obedience to Jesus' command. However, we should also love our neighbor for the same reason.14 I know that we do not keep this entire command, because only God can demonstrate this kind of unconditional love. Does this mean that we will lose our salvation? No!
We are justified on the basis of faith alone (true faith - not an uncommitted confession of some belief). If anyone is trusting in any work of the flesh, then they put themselves under the entire law of God and will be held accountable to keep it all! (James 2:10,15 Galatians 3:10,16 5:2-4,17 Romans 2:12,18 3:2019)
Conclusion
A careful examination of John 3:5-7 reveals that when Jesus' referred to being "born of water" He was talking about the physical birth ("born of the flesh"), in contrast to being "born of the Spirit" or "born again." Jesus Himself never baptized anyone to our knowledge, although the disciples did baptize under His command. In all of His interactions with people, Jesus was never recorded as commanding anyone to be baptized, although He often commended people for their faith. It would seem that if baptism were required for salvation that Jesus would have made some mention of it. We conclude that faith, rather than baptism, is required for salvation, although the dutiful Christian will be baptized in obedience to Jesus command in Matthew 28:19.
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References
Thayer's Greek Definitions:hudōr / hudatos ὕδωρ / ὕδατος (Strong's G5204)
water
of water in rivers, in fountains, in pools
of the water of the deluge
of water in any of the earth’s repositories
of water as the primary element, out of and through which the world that was before the deluge, arose and was compacted
of the waves of the sea
fig. used of many peoples Part of Speech: noun neuterA Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: genitive case, hudatos, etc., from the base of G5205 Citing in TDNT: 8:314, 1203
Thayer's Greek Definitions:baptisma βάπτισμα (Strong's G908)
immersion, submersion
of calamities and afflictions with which one is quite overwhelmed
of John’s baptism, that purification rite by which men on confessing their sins were bound to spiritual reformation, obtained the pardon of their past sins and became qualified for the benefits of the Messiah’s kingdom soon to be set up. This was valid Christian baptism, as this was the only baptism the apostles received and it is not recorded anywhere that they were ever rebaptised after Pentecost.
of Christian baptism; a rite of immersion in water as commanded by Christ, by which one after confessing his sins and professing his faith in Christ, having been born again by the Holy Spirit unto a new life, identifies publicly with the fellowship of Christ and the church.Part of Speech: noun neuterA Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G907Citing in TDNT: 1:545, 92
Thayer's Greek Definitions:horaō ὁράω (Strong's G3708)
to see with the eyes
to see with the mind, to perceive, know
to see, i.e. become acquainted with by experience, to experience
to see, to look to
to take heed, beware
to care for, pay heed to
I was seen, showed myself, appearedPart of Speech: verbA Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: properly, to stare at [compare G3700]Citing in TDNT: 5:315, 706
Thayer's Greek Definitions:eiserchomai εἰσέρχομαι (Strong's G1525)
to go out or come in: to enter
of men or animals, as into a house or a city
of Satan taking possession of the body of a person
of things: as food, that enters into the eater’s mouth
2) metaphorically
of entrance into any condition, state of things, society, employment
to arise, come into existence, begin to be
of men, to come before the public
to come into life
of thoughts that come into the mind
Part of Speech: verbA Related Word by Thayer’s/Strong’s Number: from G1519 and G2064Citing in TDNT: 2:676, 257
And they brought to Him a paralytic lying on a bed. Seeing their faith, Jesus said to the paralytic, "Take courage, son; your sins are forgiven." (Matthew 9:2)
Therefore when the Lord knew that the Pharisees had heard that Jesus was making and baptizing more disciples than John (although Jesus Himself was not baptizing, but His disciples were), (John 4:1-2)
"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, (Matthew 28:19)
But Jesus turning and seeing her said, "Daughter, take courage; your faith has made you well." At once the woman was made well. (Matthew 9:22)Then He touched their eyes, saying, "It shall be done to you according to your faith." (Matthew 9:29)Then Jesus said to her, "O woman, your faith is great; it shall be done for you as you wish." And her daughter was healed at once. (Matthew 15:28)And Jesus seeing their faith *said to the paralytic, "Son, your sins are forgiven." (Mark 2:5)And He said to her, "Daughter, your faith has made you well; go in peace and be healed of your affliction." (Mark 5:34)And Jesus said to him, "Go; your faith has made you well." Immediately he regained his sight and began following Him on the road. (Mark 10:52)And Jesus *answered saying to them, "Have faith in God. (Mark 11:22)Seeing their faith, He said, "Friend, your sins are forgiven you." (Luke 5:20)And He said to the woman, "Your faith has saved you; go in peace." (Luke 7:50)And He said to her, "Daughter, your faith has made you well; go in peace." (Luke 8:48)And He said to him, "Stand up and go; your faith has made you well." (Luke 17:19)"I tell you that He will bring about justice for them quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?" (Luke 18:8)And Jesus said to him, "Receive your sight; your faith has made you well." (Luke 18:42)
"Of Him all the prophets bear witness that through His name everyone who believes in Him receives forgiveness of sins." (Acts 10:43)
Some men came down from Judea and began teaching the brethren, "Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved." And when Paul and Barnabas had great dissension and debate with them, the brethren determined that Paul and Barnabas and some others of them should go up to Jerusalem to the apostles and elders concerning this issue... The apostles and the elders came together to look into this matter. After there had been much debate, Peter stood up and said to them, "Brethren, you know that in the early days God made a choice among you, that by my mouth the Gentiles would hear the word of the gospel and believe. "And God, who knows the heart, testified to them giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He also did to us; and He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith. "Now therefore why do you put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear? "But we believe that we are saved through the grace of the Lord Jesus, in the same way as they also are." (Acts 15:1-11)
since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one. (Romans 3:30)
nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified. (Galatians 2:16)
Beware of the dogs, beware of the evil workers, beware of the false circumcision; for we are the true circumcision, who worship in the Spirit of God and glory in Christ Jesus and put no confidence in the flesh, (Philippians 3:2-3)
"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another." (John 13:35)
For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles in one point, he has become guilty of all. (James 2:10)
For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, "CURSED IS EVERYONE WHO DOES NOT ABIDE BY ALL THINGS WRITTEN IN THE BOOK OF THE LAW, TO PERFORM THEM." (Galatians 3:10)
Behold I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no benefit to you. And I testify again to every man who receives circumcision, that he is under obligation to keep the whole Law. You have been severed from Christ, you who are seeking to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace. (Galatians 5:2-4)
For all who have sinned without the Law will also perish without the Law, and all who have sinned under the Law will be judged by the Law; (Romans 2:12)
because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin. (Romans 3:20)
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Wednesday, June 25, 2008

SUNDAY (SABATH DAY), WOES, CHURCHES PREACHING POLITICS, AND THE OBAMA SUNDAY SERMON

First a good look at "Sabbath", then a look more into what to do on the Sabbath Day and then to what may be not done on that day in relation with "woe", together; the two words found together, or in closeness, in the King James Bible.

Sabbath (Heb. verb shabbath , meaning "to rest from labour"), the day of rest. It is first mentioned as having been instituted in Paradise, when man was in innocence (Gen 2:2). "The sabbath was made for man," as a day of rest and refreshment for the body and of blessing to the soul. It is next referred to in connection with the gift of manna to the children of Israel in the wilderness (Exo 16:23); and afterwards, when the law was given from Sinai (Exo 20:11), the people were solemnly charged to "remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy." Thus it is spoken of as an institution already existing. In the Mosaic law strict regulations were laid down regarding its observance (Exo 35:2, Exo 35:3; Lev 23:3; Lev 26:34). These were peculiar to that dispensation. In the subsequent history of the Jews frequent references are made to the sanctity of the Sabbath (Isa 56:2, Isa 56:4, Isa 56:6, Isa 56:7; Isa 58:13, Isa 58:14; Jer 17:20; Neh 13:19). In later times they perverted the Sabbath by their traditions. Our Lord rescued it from their perversions, and recalled to them its true nature and intent (Mat 12:10; Mar 2:27; Luk 13:10). The Sabbath, originally instituted for man at his creation, is of permanent and universal obligation. The physical necessities of man require a Sabbath of rest. He is so constituted that his bodily welfare needs at least one day in seven for rest from ordinary labour. Experience also proves that the moral and spiritual necessities of men also demand a Sabbath of rest. "I am more and more sure by experience that the reason for the observance of the Sabbath lies deep in the everlasting necessities of human nature, and that as long as man is man the blessedness of keeping it, not as a day of rest only, but as a day of spiritual rest, will never be annulled. I certainly do feel by experience the eternal obligation, because of the eternal necessity, of the Sabbath. The soul withers without it. It thrives in proportion to its observance. The Sabbath was made for man. God made it for men in a certain spiritual state because they needed it. The need, therefore, is deeply hidden in human nature. He who can dispense with it must be holy and spiritual indeed. And he who, still unholy and unspiritual, would yet dispense with it is a man that would fain be wiser than his Maker" (F. W. Robertson). The ancient Babylonian calendar, as seen from recently recovered inscriptions on the bricks among the ruins of the royal palace, was based on the division of time into weeks of seven days. The Sabbath is in these inscriptions designated Sabattu, and defined as "a day of rest for the heart" and "a day of completion of labour." The change of the day. Originally at creation the seventh day of the week was set apart and consecrated as the Sabbath. The first day of the week is now observed as the Sabbath. Has God authorized this change? There is an obvious distinction between the Sabbath as an institution and the particular day set apart for its observance. The question, therefore, as to the change of the day in no way affects the perpetual obligation of the Sabbath as an institution. Change of the day or no change, the Sabbath remains as a sacred institution the same. It cannot be abrogated. If any change of the day has been made, it must have been by Christ or by his authority. Christ has a right to make such a change (Mar 2:23). As Creator, Christ was the original Lord of the Sabbath (Joh 1:3; Heb 1:10). It was originally a memorial of creation. A work vastly greater than that of creation has now been accomplished by him, the work of redemption. We would naturally expect just such a change as would make the Sabbath a memorial of that greater work. True, we can give no text authorizing the change in so many words. We have no express law declaring the change. But there are evidences of another kind. We know for a fact that the first day of the week has been observed from apostolic times, and the necessary conclusion is, that it was observed by the apostles and their immediate disciples. This, we may be sure, they never would have done without the permission or the authority of their Lord. After his resurrection, which took place on the first day of the week (Mat 28:1; Mar 16:2; Luk 24:1; Joh 20:1), we never find Christ meeting with his disciples on the seventh day. But he specially honoured the first day by manifesting himself to them on four separate occasions (Mat 28:9; Luk 24:34, 18-33; Joh 20:19). Again, on the next first day of the week, Jesus appeared to his disciples (Joh 20:26). Some have calculated that Christ's ascension took place on the first day of the week. And there can be no doubt that the descent of the Holy Ghost at Pentecost was on that day (Act 2:1). Thus Christ appears as instituting a new day to be observed by his people as the Sabbath, a day to be henceforth known amongst them as the "Lord's day." The observance of this "Lord's day" as the Sabbath was the general custom of the primitive churches, and must have had apostolic sanction (compare Act 20:3; Co1 16:1, Co1 16:2) and authority, and so the sanction and authority of Jesus Christ. The words "at her sabbaths" (Lam 1:7, A.V.) ought probably to be, as in the Revised Version, "at her desolations."
Sabbath Day's Journey Supposed to be a distance of 2,000 cubits, or less than half-a-mile, the distance to which, according to Jewish tradition, it was allowable to travel on the Sabbath day without violating the law (Act 1:12; compare Exo 16:29; Num 35:5; Jos 3:4).

WOE
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WOE SABBATH
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OBAMA SUNDAY SERMON
http://www.csmonitor.com/csmonitor/web/guest/search?q=OBAMA+SUNDAY+SERMON&results_num=6460&entqr=0&sort=date%3AD%3AS%3Ad1&output=xml_no_dtd&client=default_frontend&ud=1&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&proxystylesheet=monitor_style&site=csmonitor (MAYBE RESULTS WILL CATCH UP IN A COUPLE YEARS)

OBAMA SUNDAY SERMON (WASHINGTON POST) (GOOGLED- and beware of the second page)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=WASHINGTON+POST+OBAMA+SUNDAY+SERMON

http://itact.blogspot.com/2008/06/woe.html woe san diego

A Delegator, Obama Picks When to Take Reins
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/16/us/politics/16manage.html?_r=1&em&ex=1213761600&en=acfe1cf5cc116026&ei=5087%0A&oref=slogin
This is the link combigned with the above article in the same issue of the New York Times that finaly made the connections to the problems I'm seeing in his campaign, his personality, and Not just Democrats in Washington, but Ministering In Church.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/16/us/politics/16obama.html?ref=politics

In all of this I have my own concerns to take every issue "to the Bible First" and then their are the Distanced Dads that just have to be; parenting ...
..my thoughts are from "Behold A White Horse" , and a wife of a soldier's as he finds her in some return years later, she says..."but where were you?"(fiction)

Wednesday, April 9, 2008

A question seldom stated, and hardly ever discussed, in general terms, but which profoundly influences the practical controversies of the age by its l

A question seldom stated, and hardly ever discussed, in general terms, but which profoundly influences the practical controversies of the age by its latent presence, and is likely soon to make itself recognized as the vital question of the future.

Its just so long of a statement that it wouldn't all fit in the topic bar space to post; this, thats what it is about now.

Friday, March 21, 2008

Sunday, March 16, 2008

SG1

 

Just a quick look to Jesus at the midst of something that is presented as what this jewelery may present as a shield, that by seeking God first of Jesus', in perspective, I keyed 3 words here     http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:yvr19vrGzb4J:www.livingwordsa.org/worship.htm+jesus+shield+gold&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us

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Thursday, March 13, 2008

Change, Time and Information Geometry

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Change, Time and Information Geometry*
Ariel Caticha
Department of Physics, University at Albany-SUNY,
Albany, NY 12222, USA.†

Dynamics, the study of change, is normally the subject of mechanics.
Whether the chosen mechanics is “fundamental” and deterministic
or “phenomenological” and stochastic, all changes are described relative
to an external time. Here we show that once we define what we are talking
about, namely, the system, its states and a criterion to distinguish
among them, there is a single, unique, and natural dynamical law for
irreversible processes that is compatible with the principle of maximum
entropy. In this alternative dynamics changes are described relative to an
internal, “intrinsic” time which is a derived, statistical concept defined
and measured by change itself. Time is quantified change.
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arXiv:math-ph/0008018 v1 7 Aug 2000
Change, Time and Information Geometry

Ariel Caticha
Department of Physics, University at Albany-SUNY,
Albany, NY 12222, USA.


SKIPPING ALL PREREQUISETS OF THE ABSTRACT AND INTRODUCTION LEADING
(8)
This is the measure of distinguishability we seek; a small value of dℓ
2
means
the points A and A + dA are difficult to distinguish. The g
αβ
are recognized as
elements of the Fisher information matrix [3].
Up to now no notion of distance has been introduced on the space of states.
Normally one says that the reason it is difficult to distinguish between two
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points in say, the real space we seem to inhabit, is that they happen to be
too close together. It is very tempting to invert the logic and assert that the
two points A and A + dA must be very close together whenever they happen
to be difficult to distinguish. Thus it is natural to interpret g
αβ
as a metric
tensor [4]. It is known as the Fisher-Rao metric, or the information metric. A
disadvantage of these heuristic arguments is that they do not make explicit a
crucial property of the Fisher-Rao metric, except for an overall multiplicative
constant this Riemannian metric is unique [5][6].
To summarize: the very act of assigning a probability distribution p(xA) to
each point A in the space of states, automatically provides the space of states
with a metric structure.
The coordinates A are quite arbitrary, they need not be the expected values
〈a
α
〉. One can freely switch from one set to another. It is then easy to check
that g
αβ
are the components of a tensor, that the distance dℓ
2
is an invariant,
a scalar. Incidentally, dℓ
2
is also dimensionless. There is, however, one special
coordinate system in which the metric takes a form that is particularly simple.
These coordinates are the expected values themselves, A
α
= 〈a
α
〉. In these
coordinates,
g
αβ
= −

2
S(A)
∂A
α
∂A
β
(9)
with S(A) given in Eq.(5) and the covariance is not manifest.
3 Intrinsic dynamics and time
Our basic dynamical principle is that small changes from one state to another
are possible and do, in fact, happen. We do not explain why they happen but, if
we are given the valuable piece of information that some change will occur, we
can then venture a guess, make a prediction as to what the most likely change
will be.
Before giving mathematical expression to this principle we note that large
changes are assumed to be the cumulative result of many small changes. As
the system moves it follows a continuous trajectory in the space of states. We
almost hesitate to call this self-evident fact an assumption, but as the example
of quantum theory shows, trajectories need not exist.
Thus in order to go from one state to another the system will have to move
through intermediate states; in order to change by a distance 2dℓ the system
must have first changed by a distance dℓ.
Suppose the system was in the state A
α
old
= A
α
and that it changes by a small
amount dℓ to a nearby state. We have to select one new state A
α
new
= A
α
+dA
α
from among those that lie on the surface of an n
A
-dimensional sphere of radius
dℓ centered at A
α
. This is precisely what the ME principle was designed to do
[7], namely, to select a preferred probability distribution from within a specified
given set. The only difference with more conventional applications of the ME
principle is the geometrical nature of the constraint.
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We want to maximize S(A
α
+ dA
α
) under variations of dA
α
constrained by
g
αβ
dA
α
dA
β
= dℓ
2
. The notation dA
α
=
˙
A
α
dℓ is slightly more convenient; we
maximize S(A
α
+
˙
A
α
dℓ) under variations of
˙
A
α
constrained by
g
αβ
˙
A
α
˙
A
β
= 1 .
(10)
Introducing a Lagrange multiplier ω,
δ [S(A
α
+
˙
A
α
dℓ) − ω (g
αβ
˙
A
α
˙
A
β
− 1)] = 0,
(11)
we get
[ ∂S
∂A
α
dℓ − 2ω g
αβ
˙
A
β
] δ ˙A
α
= 0 .
(12)
Therefore, writing ω = σ dℓ/2, we get
˙
A
α
=
1
σ
g
αβ
∂S
∂A
β
,
(13)
where g
αβ
is the inverse of g
αβ
. This is our main result; it can be rewritten as
˙
A
α
=
1
σ
λ
α
(14)
where the vector λ
α
,
λ
α
= g
αβ
∂S
∂A
β
,
(15)
is the entropy gradient. The interpretation is clear, the system moves along the
entropy gradient.
This seems such an obvious result that it can hardly be new. Notice, however,
the gradient vector refers to the direction in which there is a maximum increase
per unit distance; one cannot talk about the gradient vector without having
first introduced a metric. The differential form defined by the derivatives S

=
∂S/∂A
β
= λ
β
, the gradient one-form, does not define a direction; it is not by
itself sufficient to define the trajectory.
The physical significance of the Lagrange multiplier σ derives from the con-
straint Eq.(10) which, using Eq.(14), can be written as
λ
α
λ
α
= σ
2
or σ = (λ
α
λ
α
)
1/2
,
(16)
σ is the magnitude of the entropy gradient. Furthermore, from this and Eq.(14),
we get dS = λ
α
˙
A
α
dℓ = σdℓ, or
σ =
dS
dℓ
.
(17)
σ is the rate of entropy increase along the trajectory.
The main result, Eq.(14), determines the trajectory followed by the system.
It determines the tangent vector
˙
A
α
= dA
α
/dℓ, but not the “velocity” dA
α
/dt.
To fix this something must be said about the universe external to the system,
something that relates the distance ℓ relative to the external time t. This is,
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in part, the role normally played by the Hamiltonian, it fixes the evolution of
a system relative to external clocks. If we cannot appeal to such information
(presumably because we do not have it, but perhaps because we just do not want
to), then the only “time” available must be internal to the system, intrinsic to
the geometry of the space of states.
One convenient choice of intrinsic time τ is the distance ℓ itself, or dτ = dℓ.
Intrinsic time is change. The equation of motion is very simple: the trajectory,
A
α
= A
α
(τ), is along the entropy gradient, and the system moves with unit
velocity,
˙
A
α
˙
A
α
= 1, or dℓ/dτ = 1.
The absolute speed dℓ/dt remains unknown. Interestingly, there is no guar-
antee that τ will elapse relative to our own external t, we could have a situation
with dτ/dt = 0. A pile of sand could, if left alone, just stay at A
α

0
) forever;
its intrinsic time τ has stopped at τ
0
. The pile does not change, because it did
not have (intrinsic) time to change. (One can play endless word games here.)
However, should a measurement of one of the variables, for example A
1
,
indicate a change from the value A
1

0
) to the value that one would normally
associate with another state along the trajectory, say the value A
1

1
) at the
later time τ
1
, then one is immediately led to infer that the system has moved
along the trajectory. Most probably all the other variables have also changed
from A
α

0
) to A
α

1
). In this case the variable A
1
(τ) is playing the role of
an internal clock. The variable A
1
is a good clock provided one can invert
A
1
= A
1
(τ), to get τ = τ(A
1
). Then, the changes in all other variables A
α
=
A
α
[τ(A
1
)] = A
α
(A
1
) can be referred, correlated to the change in A
1
. We see
that the loss of predictive power due to the unknown absolute speed dℓ/dt is
quite minimal, particularly for high dimensionality (large n
A
).
At this point one could agree that the notion of τ is useful, perhaps even
elegant. But are we justified in calling it time? Perhaps these are mere word
games, but if we do call τ time, then being a distance it provides us with
a model of duration. Furthermore, the very definite ordering of states along
the trajectory A
α
(τ) provides a realization of a temporal order. Finally, the
dynamics is intrinsically asymmetric; the trajectory is intrinsically oriented.
There is one direction in which entropy increases providing a clear distinction
between earlier and later. So this is our answer: we are justified in calling τ
time, because if we do, then we have a neat model, an explanation for temporal
order, for time asymmetry, and for duration. What better reasons do we need?
We close this section with the observation that the system does not follow a
geodesic in the space of states. From Eq.(14) we can show that the acceleration
vector, given by the absolute derivative (we assume a Riemannian geometry,
with the Levi-Civita connection)
D
˙
A
α

=
˙
A
α

˙
A
β
= g
αβ
f
βγ
˙
A
γ
,
(18)
does not vanish. The “thermodynamic force” resembles the Lorentz force law in
electrodynamics. The “field strength” tensor f
αβ
, given by f
αβ
=
˙
A
α;β

˙
A
β;α
,
is antisymmetric as needed to preserve the unit magnitude of the velocity
˙
A
α
.
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4 Reciprocal relations
The standard theory of irreversible thermodynamics, due to Onsager [13], is
based on the usual postulates of equilibrium thermostatics supplemented by the
additional postulate that the microscopic laws of motion are symmetric under
time reversal. A brief ouline is the following.
As the system moves along its trajectory entropy increases at a rate
dS
dt
=
∂S
∂A
α
dA
α
dt
= λ
α
dA
α
dt
(19)
relative to the external time t; the variables λ
α
are called thermodynamic forces,
and dA
α
/dt are called fluxes. In this theory linear relations between fluxes and
forces are postulated,
dA
α
dt
= L
αβ
λ
β
,
(20)
for which there is abundant experimental evidence, at least close to thermody-
namic equilibrium.
The significance of these relations lies in that they postulate crossed connec-
tions between a flux of type α and a force of type β, and vice versa. (Thus, a
temperature gradient will not just generate an heat current; it may also gener-
ate electric currents, matter flows, and so on.) The strength of these effects is
measured by the phenomenological Onsager coefficients L
αβ
. The central result
of the theory is the reciprocal relation between these crossed effects. The reci-
procity theorem, proved by Onsager on the basis of microscopic reversibility,
states that the matrix of phenomenological coefficients is symmetric
L
αβ
= L
βα
.
(21)
The intrinsic dynamics discussed in the previous section also leads to recip-
rocal relations. The equation of motion, Eq.(14), gives
dA
α
dt
=

dt
dA
α

=

dt
1
σ
g
αβ
λ
β
.
(22)
This allows us to identify the Onsager coefficients as
L
αβ
=

dt
1
σ
g
αβ
.
(23)
These coefficients are not constants, they vary along the trajectory, L
αβ
=
L
αβ
(A).
What is interesting here is that their symmetry follows from the symmetry of
the metric tensor. No hypothesis about microscopic reversibility was needed; in
fact, microscopic dynamics was not mentioned at all. In addition, the validity
of Eq.(22) is not restricted to the immediate vicinity of equilibrium. To the
extent that the variables A are the right variables to describe phenomena far
from equilibrium, the reciprocal relations should still hold.
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5 Dynamics constrained by conservation
Beyond the fact that changes happen, perhaps the most common additional
information that one can have about an irreversible process is that some quan-
tities are conserved. As an illustrative example we consider two systems that
are allowed to exchange some conserved quantities and evolve towards equilib-
rium. To fix ideas we could think of an ideal gas filling two vessels at different
temperatures and chemical potentials. Once the two vessels are connected, for
example by a tube, a little hole, or a a porous plug, matter and energy will flow
until equilibrium is reached.
To keep this as simple as possible we assume the experimental conditions
are such that throughout the process the two systems remain homogeneous
and independent. The first system is described by variables A
α
, the second
is described by primed variables A
′α
, and the entropies, given by Eq.(5), are
additive
S
T
(A, A

) = S(A) + S

(A

).
(24)
Since the quantities A are conserved the dynamics is constrained by A

= A
T
−A,
with A
T
fixed, or
˙
A

= −
˙
A. The conservation constraint could be incorporated
using Lagrange multipliers; for this simple example it is just as easy to eliminate
A

.
In our ideal gas example, the variables could be energy, A
1
= E, and number
of molecules, A
2
= N. This crucial part in setting the problem, choosing the
description, is the one most likely to go wrong. If the hole coupling the two
vessels is too large, the ME predictions below will fail. The failure is not to
be blamed in the ME method, but on the choice of variables: the pair E, N
is not enough to codify the relevant information of say, a turbulent flow. The
same remark applies if the connecting porous plug is such that heat can be
easily exchanged but there is resistance to matter flow. In this case additional
variables are needed, perhaps describing the physical state of the plug and the
gas in it.
Suppose the system was in the state A and that it changes by a small amount
dτ to a nearby state. To select one new state A +
˙
Adτ from among those that
lie on the surface of a sphere of radius dτ centered at A, we maximize
S
T
(A +
˙
Adτ) = S(A +
˙
Adτ) + S

(A
T
− A −
˙
Adτ)
(25)
under variations of
˙
A
α
constrained by
g
αβ
˙
A
α
˙
A
β
= 1 .
(26)
where the Fisher-Rao metric, Eq.(9), is given by
g
αβ
= −

2
∂A
α
∂A
β
(S(A) + S

(A
T
− A)) .
(27)
The result is
dA
α

=
1
σ
g
αβ

β
− λ

β
) ,
(28)
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where σ is the rate of entropy production σ = dS
T
/dτ. The system evolves
until the conjugate variables λ are equalized.
6 Final remarks
The main conclusion is simple: unless there is positive evidence to the contrary,
our best prediction is that the system evolves along the entropy gradient. What
is perhaps not so trivial is that, unlike other conventional forms of dynamics,
this intrinsic dynamics does not require an additional postulate. It is the unique
dynamics that follows from the maximum entropy principle and nothing else.
Another nontrivial aspect is that the model supplies its own notion of time.
Since the irreversible macroscopic motion is not explained in terms of a reversible
microscopic motion there is no need to explain irreversibility, this question never
arises. Similarly, there is no need to explain the second law of thermodynamics;
it is the second law (in the form of the ME axioms) that explains everything
else.
These ideas can be explored further in a number of directions. There is,
for example, the relation with other theories of irreversible processes, such as
the equations of hydrodynamics. Another possibility is to extend the theory to
account for fluctuations and diffusion. The intrinsic dynamics proposed above
is deterministic, but to the extent that the ME principle does not completely
rule out distributions of lower entropy [7], fluctuations about equilibrium and
about the deterministic motion are possible.
Perhaps the most intriguing question to pursue stems from the possibility
of deriving dynamics from purely entropic arguments. This is clearly valuable
in areas where the microscopic dynamics may be too far removed from the phe-
nomena of interest, say in biology or ecology, or where it may just be unknown
or perhaps even inexistent, as in economics. One could argue that these theo-
ries would be phenomenological as opposed to fundamental, that within physics
the search for a fundamental mechanics would still be left open. However, in
previous work we have shown [23] that entropic arguments do account for a
substantial part of the formalism of quantum mechanics, a theory that is pre-
sumably fundamental. Perhaps the fundamental theories of physics are not so
fundamental; they are just consistent, objective ways to manipulate information.
References
[1] E. T. Jaynes, Phys. Rev. 106, 620 and 108, 171 (1957).
[2] J. Skilling, “The Axioms of Maximum Entropy” in Maximum-Entropy and
Bayesian Methods in Science and Engineering, G. J. Erickson and C. R.
Smith (eds.) (Kluwer, Dordrecht, 1988).
[3] R. A. Fisher, Proc. Cambridge Philos. Soc. 122, 700 (1925).
[4] C. R. Rao, Bull. Calcutta Math. Soc. 37, 81 (1945).
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Page 12
[5] S. Amari, Differential-Geometrical Methods in Statistics (Springer-Verlag,
1985).
[6] C. C. Rodrıguez, “The metrics generated by the Kullback number” in Max-
imum Entropy and Bayesian Methods, J. Skilling (ed.) (Kluwer, Dordrecht,
1989).
[7] A. Caticha, “Maximum entropy, fluctuations and priors,” in these proceed-
ings.
[8] C. C. Rodrıguez, “Objective Bayesianism and geometry” in Maximum En-
tropy and Bayesian Methods, P. F. Foug`ere (ed.) (Kluwer, Dordrecht, 1990);
and “Bayesian robustness: a new look from geometry” in Maximum En-
tropy and Bayesian Methods, G. R. Heidbreder (ed.) (Kluwer, Dordrecht,
1996).
[9] F. Weinhold, J. Chem. Phys. 63, 2479 (1975); G. Ruppeiner, Phys. Rev. A
20, 1608 (1979) and 27, 1116 (1983); L. Diosi and B. Lukacs. Phys. Rev.
A 31, 3415 (1985) and Phys. Lett. 112A, 13 (1985).
[10] R. S. Ingarden, Tensor, N. S. 30, 201 (1976); R. S. Ingarden, Y. Sato, K.
Sugawa, and M. Kawaguchi, Tensor, N. S. 33, 347 (1979); R. S. Ingarden,
H. Janyszek, A Kossakovski, and M. Kawaguchi, Tensor, N. S. 37, 106
(1982); R. S. Ingarden, and H. Janyszek, Tensor, N. S. 39, 280 (1982).
[11] R. Balian, Y. Alhassid and H. Reinhardt, Phys. Rep. 131, 1 (1986); R.
Balian, Am J. Phys. 67, 1078 (1999).
[12] R. F. Streater, Statistical Dynamics (Imperial College Press, London,
1995); R. F. Streater, Rep. Math. Phys. 38, 419 (1996); R. F. Streater,
Contemporary Mathematics 203, 117 (1997).
[13] L. Onsager, Phys. Rev. 37, 405 and 38, 2265 (1931).
[14] D. Gabrielli, G. Jona-Lasinio and C. Landim, Phys. Rev. Lett. 77, 1202
(1996); R. F. Streater, Open Sys. & Inf. Dyn. 6, 87 (1999).
[15] H. Grabert, Projection Operator Techniques in Nonequilibrium Statis-
tical Mechanics (Springer, Berlin, 1982); R. Kubo, M. Toda, and N.
Hashitsume, Statistical Physics II, Nonequilibrium Statistical Mechanics,
(Springer, Berlin, 1985); D. Zubarev, V. Morozov and G. Ropke, Statistical
Mechanics of Nonequilibrium Processes (Akademie Verlag, Berlin 1996).
[16] B. Robertson, Phys. Rev. 144, 151 (1966); “Application of maximum en-
tropy to nonequilibrium statistical mechanics,” in The Maximum Entropy
Formalism, ed. by R. D. Levine and M. Tribus (MIT Press, Cambridge,
1978).
[17] E. T. Jaynes, “Where do we stand on maximum entropy?” in The Maxi-
mum Entropy Formalism, ed. by R. D. Levine and M. Tribus (MIT Press,
Cambridge, 1978).
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Page 13
[18] E. T. Jaynes, “Macroscopic Prediction,” in Complex Systems–Operational
Approaches in Neurobiology, Physics, and Computers, ed. by H. Haken
(Springer, Berlin, 1985).
[19] R. Luzzi and A. R. Vasconcellos, Fortschr. Phys. 38, 887 (1990); A. R. Vas-
concellos, R. Luzzi and L. S. Garcia-Colin, Phys. Rev. A 43, 6622 (1991).
[20] E. T. Jaynes, Am. J. Phys. 33, 391 (1965).
[21] J. L. Lebowitz, Physica A 194, 194 (1993); Phys. Today 46(9), 32 (1993).
[22] See e.g. Sect. 7 of Ref.[11].
[23] Ariel Caticha, “Probability and entropy in quantum theory,” in Maximum
Entropy and Bayesian Methods, ed. by W. von der Linden et al. (Kluwer,
Dordrecht, 1999) (online at http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/quant-ph/9808023;
“Insufficient reason and entropy in quantum theory,” to appear in Found.
Phys. (2000) (online at http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/quant-ph/9810074).
13

Wednesday, March 12, 2008

THEORY OF RELATIVEITY?

Up to now no notion of distance has been introduced on the space of states.

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Normally one says that the reason it is difficult to distinguish between two
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points in say, the real space we seem to inhabit, is that they happen to be
too close together.
It is very tempting to invert the logic and assert that the
two points A and A + dA must be very close together whenever they happen
to be difficult to distinguish. Thus it is natural to interpret g αβ as a metric
tensor [4]. It is known as the Fisher-Rao metric, or the information metric.
A disadvantage of these heuristic arguments is that they do not make explicit a
crucial property of the Fisher-Rao metric, except for an overall multiplicative
constant this Riemannian metric is unique [5][6].
To summarize: the very act of assigning a probability distribution p(xA) to
each point A in the space of states, automatically provides the space of states
with a metric structure.
The coordinates A are quite arbitrary, they need not be the expected values
〈a α
〉. One can freely switch from one set to another. It is then easy to check
that g β are the components of a tensor, that the distance dℓ
2 is an invariant, a scalar. Incidentally, dℓ 2 is also dimensionless.
There is, however, one special
coordinate system in which the metric takes a form that is particularly simple.
These coordinates are the expected values themselves, A
α = 〈a
α
〉. In these coordinates, g αβ = − ∂ 2 S(A) ∂A α ∂A β (9) with S(A) given in Eq.(5) and the covariance is not manifest.
3 Intrinsic dynamics and time
Our basic dynamical principle is that small changes from one state to another
are possible and do, in fact, happen. We do not explain why they happen but, if
we are given the valuable piece of information that some change will occur, we
can then venture a guess, make a prediction as to what the most likely change
will be.
Before giving mathematical expression to this principle we note that large
changes are assumed to be the cumulative result of many small changes. As
the system moves it follows a continuous trajectory in the space of states. We
almost hesitate to call this self-evident fact an assumption, but as the example
of quantum theory shows, trajectories need not exist.
Thus in order to go from one state to another the system will have to move
through intermediate states; in order to change by a distance 2dℓ the system
must have first changed by a distance dℓ.
Suppose the system was in the state A
α
old
= A
α
and that it changes by a small
amount dℓ to a nearby state. We have to select one new state A
α
new
= A
α
+dA
α
from among those that lie on the surface of an n
A
-dimensional sphere of radius
dℓ centered at A
α
. This is precisely what the ME principle was designed to do
[7], namely, to select a preferred probability distribution from within a specified
given set. The only difference with more conventional applications of the ME
principle is the geometrical nature of the constraint.
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We want to maximize ...
....One could argue that these theo-
ries would be phenomenological as opposed to fundamental, that within physics
the search for a fundamental mechanics would still be left open. However, in
previous work we have shown [23] that entropic arguments do account for a
substantial part of the formalism of quantum mechanics, a theory that is pre-
sumably fundamental. Perhaps the fundamental theories of physics are not so
fundamental; they are just consistent, objective ways to manipulate information.
References
[1] E. T. Jaynes, Phys. Rev. 106, 620 and 108, 171 (1957).
[2] J. Skilling, “The Axioms of Maximum Entropy” in Maximum-Entropy and
Bayesian Methods in Science and Engineering, G. J. Erickson and C. R.
Smith (eds.) (Kluwer, Dordrecht, 1988).
[3] R. A. Fisher, Proc. Cambridge Philos. Soc. 122, 700 (1925).
[4] C. R. Rao, Bull. Calcutta Math. Soc. 37, 81 (1945).
11
Page 12
[5] S. Amari, Differential-Geometrical Methods in Statistics (Springer-Verlag,
1985).
[6] C. C. Rodrıguez, “The metrics generated by the Kullback number” in Max-
imum Entropy and Bayesian Methods, J. Skilling (ed.) (Kluwer, Dordrecht,
1989).
[7] A. Caticha, “Maximum entropy, fluctuations and priors,” in these proceed-
ings.
[8] C. C. Rodrıguez, “Objective Bayesianism and geometry” in Maximum En-
tropy and Bayesian Methods, P. F. Foug`ere (ed.) (Kluwer, Dordrecht, 1990);
and “Bayesian robustness: a new look from geometry” in Maximum En-
tropy and Bayesian Methods, G. R. Heidbreder (ed.) (Kluwer, Dordrecht,
1996).
[9] F. Weinhold, J. Chem. Phys. 63, 2479 (1975); G. Ruppeiner, Phys. Rev. A
20, 1608 (1979) and 27, 1116 (1983); L. Diosi and B. Lukacs. Phys. Rev.
A 31, 3415 (1985) and Phys. Lett. 112A, 13 (1985).
[10] R. S. Ingarden, Tensor, N. S. 30, 201 (1976); R. S. Ingarden, Y. Sato, K.
Sugawa, and M. Kawaguchi, Tensor, N. S. 33, 347 (1979); R. S. Ingarden,
H. Janyszek, A Kossakovski, and M. Kawaguchi, Tensor, N. S. 37, 106
(1982); R. S. Ingarden, and H. Janyszek, Tensor, N. S. 39, 280 (1982).
[11] R. Balian, Y. Alhassid and H. Reinhardt, Phys. Rep. 131, 1 (1986); R.
Balian, Am J. Phys. 67, 1078 (1999).
[12] R. F. Streater, Statistical Dynamics (Imperial College Press, London,
1995); R. F. Streater, Rep. Math. Phys. 38, 419 (1996); R. F. Streater,
Contemporary Mathematics 203, 117 (1997).
[13] L. Onsager, Phys. Rev. 37, 405 and 38, 2265 (1931).
[14] D. Gabrielli, G. Jona-Lasinio and C. Landim, Phys. Rev. Lett. 77, 1202
(1996); R. F. Streater, Open Sys. & Inf. Dyn. 6, 87 (1999).
[15] H. Grabert, Projection Operator Techniques in Nonequilibrium Statis-
tical Mechanics (Springer, Berlin, 1982); R. Kubo, M. Toda, and N.
Hashitsume, Statistical Physics II, Nonequilibrium Statistical Mechanics,
(Springer, Berlin, 1985); D. Zubarev, V. Morozov and G. Ropke, Statistical
Mechanics of Nonequilibrium Processes (Akademie Verlag, Berlin 1996).
[16] B. Robertson, Phys. Rev. 144, 151 (1966); “Application of maximum en-
tropy to nonequilibrium statistical mechanics,” in The Maximum Entropy
Formalism, ed. by R. D. Levine and M. Tribus (MIT Press, Cambridge,
1978).
[17] E. T. Jaynes, “Where do we stand on maximum entropy?” in The Maxi-
mum Entropy Formalism, ed. by R. D. Levine and M. Tribus (MIT Press,
Cambridge, 1978).
12
Page 13
[18] E. T. Jaynes, “Macroscopic Prediction,” in Complex Systems–Operational
Approaches in Neurobiology, Physics, and Computers, ed. by H. Haken
(Springer, Berlin, 1985).
[19] R. Luzzi and A. R. Vasconcellos, Fortschr. Phys. 38, 887 (1990); A. R. Vas-
concellos, R. Luzzi and L. S. Garcia-Colin, Phys. Rev. A 43, 6622 (1991).
[20] E. T. Jaynes, Am. J. Phys. 33, 391 (1965).
[21] J. L. Lebowitz, Physica A 194, 194 (1993); Phys. Today 46(9), 32 (1993).
[22] See e.g. Sect. 7 of Ref.[11].
[23] Ariel Caticha, “Probability and entropy in quantum theory,” in Maximum
Entropy and Bayesian Methods, ed. by W. von der Linden et al. (Kluwer,
Dordrecht, 1999) (online at http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/quant-ph/9808023;
“Insufficient reason and entropy in quantum theory,” to appear in Found.
Phys. (2000) (online at http://xxx.lanl.gov/abs/quant-ph/9810074).13

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